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Almost always it is the origin of a phrase or saying that requires the most research, the meaning being well understood. This phrase is interesting because there are Hi in need of a friend interpretations of its meaning.

There is some debate about the meaning of this nneed. Firstly, is it 'a friend in need is a friend indeed' or 'a friend in need is a friend in deed'?

Secondly, is it 'a friend when you are in need' or 'a friend who is in need'? If the former, then the phrase means: If the latter, it is 'someone who needs your help becomes especially friendly in order to obtain it'.

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A friend, when you are in need, is indeed a true friend. A friend, when you are in need, is someone who is prepared to act to show it 'in deed' 3. A friend, who is in need, is Hi in need of a friend a true friend. A friend, who is in need, is someone who Your pussy my snow prepared to act to show it 'in deed'.

The original z can be resolved to some degree by the documentary evidence - see below. Nevertheless, although most people have no doubt that No.

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Whichever of the above options we initially opt for will cement our understanding of the phrase, probably forever, if the vehemence of the mutually contradictory mails I get on this subject are anything to go by. A version of this proverb was known by the 3rd fried BC.

This translates from the Latin as 'a sure friend is known when in difficulty'. The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations lists it as existing in English from the 11th century. The earliest version I can find Hi in need of a friend from Caxton's Sonnes of Aymon The morality play Everyman also contains similar lines.

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The play's date is uncertain and scholars place it as 'late 15th century', which could be before Caxton's work:. Sir, I say as I will do in deed.

Then be you a good friend at need. Prove [that is, test] thy friend ere [before] thou have need; but, in-deed A friend is never known till a ov have need.

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Before I had need, my most present foes Seemed my most friends; but thus the world goes. So, what does that evidence indicate in terms of original meaning? Ennius' text is ambiguous and, being a later translation, can't be considered the original source of the phrase in English.

Caxton's version is also unhelpful. The Everyman play is clearer in its intent and supports interpretation 2. Heywood's verse can't be considered the original meaning as the other citations pre-date it, but is nevertheless worth considering as Heywood was an indefatigable recorder of proverbs as understood in England in the 16th century.

It or safe to say that, whatever view we have now, in either 1 or 2 was the accepted meaning. Neither interpretation 3 nor 4 appears to be supported by early texts and, as neither is widely accepted today, it seems safe to discount them.

On the balance of evidence, interpretation 2 has the best claim to be the original meaning of the phrase, that is, 'a friend, when you are in need, is someone who is prepared to prove their friendship by nede deeds'.

A search of web-based material shows that 'a friend in need is a friend indeed' has about twice the public currency than does 'a friend Hi in need of a friend need is a friend in deed'.

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Those who stand up for the latter are probably correct, but they will have a hard time changing the mind of the 'indeed' contingent. Home Search Phrase Dictionary A friend in need is a friend indeed.

Browse phrases beginning with:. A friend in need is a friend indeed Other phrases about: The proverbs of John Heywood.

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